Where do you buy your kraft paper?

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Where do you buy your kraft paper?

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Hi,

I ordered some kraft paper online, but it looks different from kraft paper that I have seen being used by other folders. It also doesn't fold the best. So, I was wondering where do you buy your kraft paper? Thanks!
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I bought mine from Terry's store, origami-shop.com It is thinner than normal kraft paper, and holds creases well. It worked great for the ryujin, but was too thin for things like the black forest cuckoo clock.
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I'm folding Kamiya's Ancient Dragon from Nicholas' paper right now, and it's going fine.
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you should really stop drinking [img]http://freenet-homepage.de/origamichris/ablage/nod.gif[/img]
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What's that supposed to mean?
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you obviously know what I ment [img]http://freenet-homepage.de/origamichris ... ofl0ne.gif[/img]
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TheRealChris wrote:you obviously know what I ment
WTF? (In this context, the F stands for "flip". Flip. Not the other word. Flip.)
Seriously though, just because he edited it to correct a few minor spelling mistakes (presumably), doesn't make it funny.

I usually get my Kraft paper from DeSerres (a Canadian art store chain). I don't know what its g/sm is though, but it must be in the mid-range.
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Post by origamimasterjared »

First off, Chris, the better response is "Drink more." Besides, I think you're talking to some quite underage kids, (Regardless of country, I think 13 is against the law.)

Anyhow, my experience with kraft paper has been anything but favorable. Bought a roll of white kraft paper once. Tried to make something, and it came out terrible. Tried again, terrible. I'll stick with smaller better quality stuff.
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There are many different kinds of kraft paper with a wide variety of qualities and thickness. Especially with very thin kinds it can be a pleasure to fold with, around 30gsm for example is very suitable for insects. There was a time when I nearly exclusively folded with kraft paper, but now that I know about double MC paper I prefer this. A good point about the kraft paper I used was that it was near to impossible to rip even if you folded it several times back and forth and tried to rip along the crease.
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I've bought some kraft paper from Nicolas Terry too. I have used it to fold some insects and the eagle from License to Fold, but whenever I use it, it is always too springy to finish the shaping of the model. I have also tried wet shaping to little success, and treating it with mc made it rip.

Has anyone got any avice for me and any others who have found the same problem?
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If you treat it before folding, it becomes very wrinkly (i havent tried it, I just heard that this happens). I didn't have any problems with MCing the paper while shaping though. It wasnt any more prone to ripping than my usual double tissue paper. The paper was really springy for me too. MC was the only way I could get my ryujin to stay together, I pretty much had to dip the head, neck, and legs into MC to get them to stay together and in position.
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I tend to use anything that comes to hand; wrapping and paper bags mainly, but last week I found a firm that supplies a beautiful range of papers. I ordered sample packs and I'm currently experimenting with their foldability.

http://www.craftcreations.co.uk/pages/p ... category=2

The foreground snail below is folded from their Abaca range.The backdrop is Shimmer paper; textured irridescent paper, white backed.

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The shimmer paper is really nice, and so is the textured irridescent paper, I may buy this one. So was it good for folding?
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Hi legionzilla, the shimmer paper creases very well. It's more of a paper backed foil; but in this case I reckon the foil is of the polymer kind. It's great for finicky folds; doesn't cockle or rivel like a fibre based paper would. Weighs in at 122 microns.

Abaca on the other hand doesn't fold as cleanly. It's a soft translucent paper that creases well, but being that it's textured with threads you get wee knots as it were along fold lines. These can snap every now and again and protrude from the outer edges of creases. Not seriously, rather, one or two here and there. Which I just trim off with scissors. I like it; it's very tactile and has bags of character. Has to be good for certain types of designs.

Have more samples coming next week. Can't wait to check them out. :)
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I buy my kraft paper from a french wholesale packaging/packing material store, name Raja. They sell higher quality kraft, in weight ranging from 72 to 125 g/m² , the downside being the length and weigth of the rolls (for example, 300m long and 30kgs for a 72g/m²roll with 1m40 width).
Beware, some kraft paper are of inferior quality. Made mainly from recycled paper, with very short fibers, they tend to rip easily. For examples, the colored kraft paper I found in France is thick and difficult to fold, yet rips easily if I try to wet-fold it.

White kraft is a different kind from brown one, when I experimented with it I didn't get satisfactory results. It reminded me of the bicolor "origami" paper you find in packages of 200 15cmx15cm sheets.
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