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Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: April 5th, 2012, 7:02 pm
by ginshun
Water Dragon by Brian Chan or Ryujin 1.2 by Satoshi Kamiya?
I really like the look of the long skinny dragon in both of these models, but I am wondering which one I should try first. I honestly have a feeling that I am biting off more than I can chew with either, but you never know til you try right?
Thanks for any input.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: April 6th, 2012, 12:21 am
by Razzmatazz
If I remember correctly, the water dragon has an easier head, but harder body. The head for Ryu Jin 1.2 was fiddly for me and I couldn't do it. But the rest was easier.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: April 6th, 2012, 12:55 am
by Baltorigamist
If you don't let the asymmetry screw you up, the Water Dragon.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: April 6th, 2012, 2:37 am
by ginshun
Maybe Brian Chan's Newt first - seams easier and similar...
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: August 1st, 2012, 12:41 pm
by cowburger13
What is the grid for the water dragon?
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: August 1st, 2012, 3:23 pm
by Froy
Water dragon being 2 stretched bird bases whit 2 grafts, it easier to understand and find a folding sequence. Kamiya's models tends to be a little more complex in their structure.
Water dragons is easier because the base is made of already known bases.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: September 5th, 2012, 2:12 pm
by cowburger13
But Kamiya's is slightly easier, because it lies on a grid.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: September 5th, 2012, 4:43 pm
by yevgen
I disagree, the fact that it is 2 bird bases makes it faster to precrease and the structure becomes more apparent in designs like brian's water dragon when it is not based on a grid. also it is easier to collapse as generally it will have more of a folding sequence than models that are based on a grid!
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: September 5th, 2012, 10:07 pm
by cowburger13
Models based on a grid have a folding sequence, it's just harder to find.
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: September 5th, 2012, 11:03 pm
by yevgen
some - yes, but not all take for example andrey ermakov's mantis shrimp. it is diagramed as a guided collapse rather than diagrams so there is no real folding sequence also the ryujin is pretty chaotic even though there is a basic order in which you must fold (belly pleats then legs then transition units then scales and so on)
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: August 5th, 2013, 1:29 pm
by Swapnil Das
cowburger13 wrote:What is the grid for the water dragon?
It's 32.
How'd I Find Out??? Well, I used Inkscape And Used The Grid And Made The Horizontal Lines Lie Exactly on The Inkscape Grid And Voila!!!
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: August 5th, 2013, 3:19 pm
by Benlewisorigami
Eh, but Justin, it wasn't designed on a grid. It's a basic base with sinks in certain areas to narrow them down... It's bird bases, and other bases like the fish base for instance that make up the base
Re: Which CP is easier to fold / collapse
Posted: August 6th, 2013, 7:23 am
by Swapnil Das
Here's My Fold! ->
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dipakcdas/9447077213/
ANd It's From A Perfect Grid Of 32.