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Silver dragon
Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 11:55 pm
by chesslo
Has anyone made the sliver dragon in the site fishgoth?
Thanks
Chesslo
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:24 am
by Daydreamer
No.1:
I guess you mean "Silver Dragon" and not "Sliver Dragon"
No.2:
"the site fishgoth" is
http://www.fishgoth.com/
No.3:
Your question could be answered with "yes" or "no" ("no" in my case, "yes" in case of Stephen O'Hanlon aka Fishgoth) but that's probably not the answer you are looking for. If you need help with the model you should be a bit more specific.
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:51 am
by Fishgoth
Yes.
I've made several of them.
Just thought I'd let you know.
PS: There's even a crease pattern for one, if anyone is desperate enough...
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 4:24 am
by chesslo
can u tell me how to make it?
thanks chesslo

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 5:02 am
by theorigamist
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 6:39 am
by JeossMayhem
Chesslo... again, people don't usually like to "tell" you how to fold something. If they wanted "tell", they would make a diagram.
There's a CP for a few reasons. One being that it doesn't "tell", and second, it allows others to figure it out and go throught the same thought process as the designer, as if you were designing it.
It takes a long time to diagram something. And the way I see it, the time isn't even worth it because whoever is folding from diagram doesn't get anything near the insight if they were to fold it form CP.
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 6:48 am
by eric_son
Nicely put.
Also, if I may add, there are some folds that are almost impractical to diagram. Some models have intermediate states that require near simultaneous folds in different areas. Even if the author manages to diagram that, the diagram would not really be helpful.
Finish working on the Phoenix v3.0 or v3.5 first. It seems that you're attempting to work on different crease patterns all at the same time.
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 8:55 pm
by Fishgoth
Certainly. Have a look at the crease pattern. Where there are lines, you should make a fold.
When you get them all in the right direction, it will look a bit like my dragon model. It will take you roughly 25 years to do this.
That is how long it has taken me.
Alternatively, I do commissions at £50 sterling per hours work, not including postage. That dragon will take approx 4 hours work.
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 9:29 pm
by nonkelgans
Fishgoth wrote:
Alternatively, I do commissions at £50 sterling per hours work, not including postage. That dragon will take approx 4 hours work.
For that price I would think that postage is already included !!!
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 9:45 pm
by JeossMayhem
Fishgoth wrote:
Alternatively, I do commissions at £50 sterling per hours work, not including postage. That dragon will take approx 4 hours work.
That's around $400 for us Americans, by the way.
A very fair price, in my opinion. Do you charge the same if someone were to ask you to fold a subject you previously haven't designed? That being, $50 x hours designing x hours folding the final model?
Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 11:06 pm
by origamimasterjared
Depending upon the materials used that is certainly a fair price.
Makes me feel I was gypping myself, thinking $10/hour + paper cost was the right price. (It wasn't exactly a commission, and I did end up getting offered much more--€150--which at the time was $180, not the $230 it is now.)
Posted: December 4th, 2007, 11:25 pm
by Fishgoth
Aha! Time to rant...
I'm a full time surgeon. I work entirely for the NHS, mainly doing cancer and airway work. I work many hours every week.
Origami is an escape for me. It allows me to empty my brain. Yes, it helps with manual dexterity, 3D thinking, etc. But I like the relaxation. In the same way that many medic paint, play instruments, and so on.
So, if you want me to give up my free time to fold a model for you, or to teach you, or to write diagrams for you, they you have to stump up the dosh.
Of course, my website, and my submissions to schools and origami magazines remains free...
Posted: December 4th, 2007, 11:28 pm
by Fishgoth
For designing work, I may offer a flat quote for the design, rather than an hourly rate.
I'm usually too busy to undertake too many commissions, so I chop and choose carefully.
Posted: August 29th, 2010, 1:53 pm
by redheadorigami
awww.
lol, what about trading?
(i.e. origami for origami)
Posted: August 29th, 2010, 2:06 pm
by redheadorigami