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Help With Origami Nazgul - Hood Design

Posted: April 8th, 2010, 11:22 am
by Ori-JD
Hello everyone. I am currently developing an origami Nazgul (from the lord of the rings) but I am having a bit of trouble trying to produce a decent looking hood. I am using a modified frog base, I have created the fingers and the cloak, but the cloak finishes at the top point of the base, and it becomes quite difficult to produce a hood. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted: April 8th, 2010, 10:15 pm
by JumPurge
Hm. I'm a general novice, but I assume if you mean the top point you mean that thick part, I have a suggestion. Sink the top, open it up, than make a face with the bottom half of the sunken tip (or front, which ever) spread the back to merge it with the cloak, and mold or fold, which ever makes it look nicer, the top to make a hood.

Other than that, I suggest you do what Lang did with the scaled koi and just expand everything and add a hood to the middle. The extra flaps might make some awesome detail.

Looking at the nazgul, it looks like the dementor from Harry Potter. They have these long flaps flying around. Just my opinion though on that. ._.

Like I said, I'm a novice at cps.

Posted: April 9th, 2010, 1:31 am
by Finward
Hi. I designed an origami nazgul a while ago. My latest version has the hood from the edge of the paper, and the layers unwrap to form a faceless head (a hood) But in my first version the hood was made from the central point. It was rather simple. I folded the model in half, crimped the point, and then reverse folded it, curving the tip of the point backwards, to avoid making it look like a hat. Kind of like the Ghost by Mario Adrados.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjU88Astjds
couldn't find the diagrams online, but i know they are there, legally

Posted: April 9th, 2010, 3:25 am
by Ori-JD
This is a rough idea of what i'm up to (fingers and blade, its not finished and lacks detail.) Now I have to try to find a way to sink the top to create a hood, and yes this is the top point, the thickest part of the model.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4382/nazgul1111.jpg

Posted: April 9th, 2010, 3:31 am
by Ori-JD
Picture of the back of the model, also. :)

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7914/nazgulback.jpg

Posted: April 9th, 2010, 8:50 pm
by JumPurge
Sorry, I mix things up easily. Once ordered for extra side of sweet and sour sauce... they instead took it as not putting the sauce on the chicken and on the side. ;-; Just needed the confirmation.
I can definitely say it looks more like a dementor from the layers there at the bottom. ._.
Looking at it, I say... um... fold it down, open it up from the bottom, and crease down all the little folds made from the first mentioned. Or, since you provided a picture, maybe swivel some layers out for a hood and scrap the head? Googling nazgul a lot just seem headless or the faces are completely non visible.

Posted: April 12th, 2010, 1:04 pm
by Ori-JD
I'd actually like to design a nazgul with a hood, from a single layer of paper, but with this style with the fingers, but I don't know where to start. Any Suggestions?

Posted: April 12th, 2010, 8:44 pm
by Jonnycakes
1. Think about what features you want your nazgul to have and what you want it to look like completed. Then draw a quick sketch of what you want it to look like-this helps with visualizing it and getting proportions correct. You can also draw a stick figure to help with the proportions.

2. Decide what parts of the paper will make up each part of the nazgul. Draw a rough circle packing to help with this if desired.

3. This is the hard part-use a simple base or design a CP based on your sketch and paper allocation. From here, test fold and improve the design until it is to your liking.

Posted: April 24th, 2010, 4:48 am
by Ori-JD
I have worked out a way to make a hood pulling paper out from the sides of the model. Maybe I might consider diagramming it some day. :)

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 12:43 pm
by Ori-JD
Im also having trouble folding decent sleeves and fingers for the model. I'd like the sleeves to start small and fan out in a triangular shape, rather than going closer together to a point. Id also like to make fingers exactly like Jun Maekawa's Devil with that extra right-angled triangular flap sticking out the side. Any suggestions would be great.

Posted: June 27th, 2010, 3:27 pm
by Sunburst
It's hard to say for the hands since I don't have your model in my hands, but I might have an idea for the sleeves. If you have a way of making the end of the sleeves larger (by pulling some paper, a graft or whatever), you could simply mountain fold the beginning of the sleeves so that they start small but end large. Or, you could reverse fold the top part of the arm to get a similar effect. Personally, I think the sleeves don't really need any improvement though.