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Does anybody know who created this model? And are there diagrams or crease patterns for it?

http://www.origami-shop.com/origami-boo ... -1128.html

http://www.origami-shop.com/copyrighter ... ar2006.jpg

that seahorse was created by Eric Joisel, I don't know if there are diagrams but highly doubt it.
http://www.ericjoisel.com/

There is no cp or diagram for this model.

Somewhere, I think Joisel's facebook account, I read from him that it's only a simple fish base... with a lot of 3D modelling!!!

That could very well be true. A huge amount of his models use rather simple bases with just a lot of modelling to make them look complex.

You're kidding?!? I would have NEVER guessed that the beautiful seahorse was made from a fishbase, that's AMAZING.

origami_8 wrote:That could very well be true. A huge amount of his models use rather simple bases with just a lot of modelling to make them look complex.

I'd argue that "just a lot of modelling" has been a little revolution in paperfolding and that it has been a nice counterbalance to purely mathematical approaches to origami which sometimes lead to flat and lifeless models. Also note that it does not serve the purpose of "making it look complex" but that of making it look organic and beautiful.

Yet again, Origami means paper folding not paper shaping. So some of those newer models that require hardly any real folds but rather shaping with methylcellulose or water to keep them in shape aren't really Origami but rather a different kind of paper art.

I disagree with Anna, though not completely. I think that paper shaping should be considered an extension on to origami because we still consider some purely sculpted models(without any 'real' folds) Origami.

I'd forgotten this thread

There is a continuum of techniques to "shape" paper - how much a crease should ressemble the mathematical equivalent of a fold is arbitrary, much as Anna's definition I think .

Here are a few :
- crumpling : a statistical distribution of lots of folds rather than a deterministic one - origami ? In principle you could reach a similar result with as many deterministic creases, though it would be cumbersome...
- wet-folding : could have no crease at all, yet is it not folding, as the name implies ?
- curved creases ?
- soft creases ?
- ... ? ...

It is somewhat useless to base oneself on a mathematical model, such as the infinitely thin sheet of paper which one folds in straight lines at given angles, when the truth of it is that we exploit thickness, texture and shape memory of "paper" in so many interesting models anyway. Note that often even the "paper" is nothing close to what non-folders mean by the term in general.

You may also confine yourself to a set of rules (don't we all, to some extent), but to declare this or that is or is not origami based on the ethymology of a word in a language you probably do not master is a bit pedantic IMO. Yes, there may be a consensus about what is or what is not origami, but it is likely to change with time.

you know what, if you saw the vid where eric got hos insperation, then maybe eric just made a simple seahorse, but with more detail, like he modified it.