dao quyet vampire bat

[bethnor]

in steps 61-2 of the vampire bat, the diagrams have you valley fold that top flap down. the diagrams make it look like the flap is independent of what will eventually be the ear, but they're not. said flap seems to get tucked away in the diagrams, but is still visible when i do the valley fold; i assume it's just tucked away in the shaping, but it's hard to tell since most everyone folds it from sheets the same color on both side.





am i doing something wrong?

[Edg]

I've had the same issue on two attempts, can't seem to get the appropriate result. I'm hesitant to say its a problem with the diagram. Whenever I've thought that in the past, I've been proved wrong Planning to have another go tonight, if I have any revelations I'll let you know!

[Edg]

Gave up following the diagram and tried something different. Swapped the valley fold of step 61 to a mountain fold, whilst pleating the ear in front then swivel folding some paper back behind the ear
Don't know how this will pan out with the shaping though! Sorry I can't give a clear answer on this step

[bethnor]

lol, edg, that's just what i did!

honestly, i think part of the problem is that the model is meant to be highly individualized, and i think quyet just diagrammed the base as he remembered it. but i am pretty sure the display model follows a different sequence, and looking at the photos of the original vampire, that does seem to be the case. in the instance of the ears, i just think you can shape any excess paper out of the way.



for instance, i think step 50 is also a mountain fold in the display model rather than a valley. i cannot pinpoint the flap in the photo. not only that, i do believe that this fold is eventually undone in step 76, where the whole thing is pulled out. otherwise, it is impossible to get the circled area in the photo.

[bethnor]

alright, think i got it.



part of the difficulty, as i stated before, is i think that the diagrams are for the "original" version of the vampire.



you can actually see here at the top of the wings the duo color effect of the VOG paper. this is slightly different from the photographed version in the VOG book, where these flaps are not visible, and have to have tucked away.



here's what i did.



instead of making the mountain fold flush with the edge, i use the circled reference point. if you do the mountain this way, it gives you leeway to squash the ears the way you see in the photos. if you make it completely flush, you won't have enough paper.



i also like the pull down the blue flap, which is actually connected to the flap with the red edge. you can line it up with the tip of the wing as indicated by the green line, and that is what i think gives quyet that extra edge to curl in the photographed model.

lastly, it is worth noting that he does NOT divide the wings as diagrammed either. the diagrammed version uses the horizontal lines as the reference from the tips of the wing. if you do it that way, the wing will only have three points. but you see in the photo that he has four. there are actually old creases near the claws which i used as another reference point--you can see it in the above photo. i then took the lateral tips of the wing, and divided the area between the tips and the reference point in three.

whew. anyway. a great model, and i'm pleased to have the diagrams for the base.

[Edg]

A great result! Thanks for the insights and well spotted on the original fold
Alas, I thought I'd be clever and try scoring the creases on the wings before I try to do a wet finish so I'll have less wing tips than I'd like. Won't be the last time I fold it though, its a great model, as you say!