Tissue foil disaster

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » December 26th, 2006, 11:04 pm

What I did was mix elmers glue with a little water and applied it to the foil with a brush. Then I quickly put on the tissue paper on it. The tissue paper was taped to a board and was stretched tightly. I removed the board but noticed that my tissue paper was all wet from the glue mix and wrinkled.

Is the glue suppose to seep all the way through the paper? It ended up gross and sticky.

Aznman · Post by **Aznman** » December 26th, 2006, 11:33 pm

I have never used elmers glue, but my guess is that it is too watery to be used. Try using an extreamely thin layer of glue. Bassically a film of glue.

Or, you can use a spray adheasive. These work well. You can either use an aerosol (fine mist), or a web type spray. I would suggest aerosol, because you get a smother application.

Hope that helps.

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » December 26th, 2006, 11:53 pm

im already not starting to like tissue foil. What is the next best thing to use? I need thin but strong paper. I only have kami right now and it is horrible for complex models. It rips too easily and not too good for 3dimensional models.

Post by **origami_8** » December 26th, 2006, 11:56 pm

I would suggest using existing topics instead of opening up new ones all the time

Thin wood glue or something like this works fine. If your glue is too thick you can apply some water to it.

The next best thing to tissue foil (if not even better) is mc treated double tissue paper (use the search function for informations about that). Thin Kraftpaper also works well.
You can buy foil paper at Nicolas TerryÂ´s shop.

PS: Next time you open up a topic on an allready existing subject, I delete it!

islandmassive · Post by **islandmassive** » December 27th, 2006, 2:45 pm

i find that tissue foil never works for me even with spray adheasive but you could always try the glue your using with some water and then instead of tissue paper why not try using mulberry paper which is slightly thicker and doesent wrinkle

(alas where i live 35p a sheet

)

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » December 27th, 2006, 3:47 pm

i guess i'll try mulberry as long as i can get it for cheap. Tissue paper seems really weak when wet with glue.

Also, is tissue foil supposed to be thicker than kami? Mine feels thicker but still foldable.

islandmassive · Post by **islandmassive** » December 27th, 2006, 6:41 pm

im afraid that if the glue u use is anything like the standard glue we get in the uk it will be thicker thats why everyone tends to use spray glue

Post by **origami_8** » December 27th, 2006, 8:18 pm

It depends on the paper and glue you use, but my tissue foil always ends up thinner than normal kami.
About the folding properties, the one with spray glue is thinner, but the one with white glue has the better folding qualities - in my opinion.

Brimstone · Post by **Brimstone** » December 28th, 2006, 1:45 am

Did you succedd the first time you tried to fold a complex model? Making tissue foil like most other things takes practice and technique.

The mix should be 2 parts elmer glue and one part water and then you can do some adjusting. Colors tend to run on the tissue but this can be an advantage. Letting them dry extended will get you good results.

kingdomwinds · Post by **kingdomwinds** » December 28th, 2006, 2:49 am

i tried folding kawahata's stegasaurus with my crude tissue foil but it ended in disaster. The paper was too crumply in places and the glue started to separate.

It is not really a difficult model but i don't think foil paper is good for this. I think i will try kraft paper instead.

Brimstone · Post by **Brimstone** » December 28th, 2006, 4:17 am

Many people like kfraft I just can't stand it. It just does not fold, it wrinkles horribly around creases.

I don't think the glue came undone. Maybe you left some spots without it. You have to carefully extend a film of glue/water mix over the foil then press it against the tissue and then use your hands to extend the tissue from the center towards the edges.

Give it another try foil really helps for shaping models